You are here: Home 
SarahNET Radio The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Palin endorsed Dr. Ted Yoho is here!
SarahNET Radio The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Palin endorsed Dr. Ted Yoho is here!Welcome to SarahNETRadio.net
The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Palin endorsed Dr. Ted Yoho is here!
Published on Saturday, 25 August 2012 12:10 | Written by Kevin Scholla | 
| 
| 
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Dr. Ted Yoho is here! Just endorsed by Sarah Palin, this Christian conservative Republican is hoping to head to the House of Representatives. Yoho, a small business owner and family man is committed to taming a government gone wild. A veterinarian, Yoho is well equipped to go to Washington and deal with the weasels and worms that are undermining the Constitution. Yoho maps out his plans if elected, discusses Governor Palin, and even talks a little Tim Tebow. An interesting interview with a unique candidate. Also, Governor Palin endorses Arizona's Paul Gosar and Maryland's Dan Bongino, while calling for Todd Akin to fold 'em. Plus, Wayne Brady apologizes to the Palins and Todd Palin rolls on in Stars Earn Stripes.
Tyler Weyer is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Weyer and his classmates wanted Sarah Palin to speak at their high school graduation in Republic, Washington and thanks to some good old fashioned sticktoitiveness, the Governor has agreed. Palin will address a graduating class of 27 students next month. Weyer tells Kevin why Palin was the choice for his class and he discusses the reaction around the small tight knit community. Sarah Palin pulls no punches when discussing the Obama administration's failures regarding the IRS and Benghazi. Plus, Palin endorses Jason Smith in Missouri and comments on the Gosnell verdict. Also, a Mother's Day bear hunt and Sarah Palin showcases Kevin Scholla's article on Sally Heath. Steel Resolve, our weekly commentary with Sarah Steelman is featured as well. Listen NOW!Written on 05-19-13 by Kevin Scholla
Tyler Weyer is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Weyer and his classmates wanted Sarah Palin to speak at their high school graduation in Republic, Washington and...Written on 05-12-13 by Kevin Scholla
Dick LaRossa is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! The former New Jersey State Senator tells us why Republicans need an extreme make over. LaRossa...Written on 05-05-13 by Kevin Scholla
Howard Johnson is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! The former New York Mets slugger discusses how players feel about Sarah Palin and why he believes...Written on 04-28-13 by Kevin Scholla
Rev. Frank Pavone is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Pavone, a Catholic priest has attended the trial of Kermit Gosnell and he's here to talk about...Written on 04-24-13 by News Editor
This week Sarah Palin was the topic when SarahNET Radio's Kevin Scholla stopped by Women Patriots on Conservative Radio Network! Hosts Barbara and Brenda talk to Kevin...Written on 04-21-13 by Kevin Scholla
Stimpson is running for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia and she says Sarah Palin paved the way for commonsense conservative candidates like herself. Stimpson maps out...Written on 04-14-13 by Kevin Scholla
Owen Groesser and his mom Kari Groesser are on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Owen, a Michigan eighth grader with Down Syndrome became an overnight...Written on 04-07-13 by Kevin Scholla
North Dakota State Representative Dan Ruby stops by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla to discuss a measure that could effectively outlaw abortions! Ruby talks...Written on 03-30-13 by Kevin Scholla
Dr. Gina Loudon is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Loudon recently appeared on Wife Swap and as expected the liberal program attempted to make her...Written on 03-28-13 by Kevin Scholla
A SarahNET Radio Special Presentation: Terri's Day! As Governor Sarah Palin prepares to speak at the Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network's Award Gala, Kevin Scholla...Written on 03-27-13 by News Editor
Kevin Scholla, host of The Palin Update on SarahNET Radio appeared on Dr. Gina's show Wednesday to discuss Sarah Palin. Kevin addresses the Scottie Hughes article...Written on 03-23-13 by Kevin Scholla
Jason Smith stops by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! The Missouri House of Representatives Pro-Tem has shown us the Liberty Pose and now he looks to show the Show...Written on 03-17-13 by Kevin Scholla
Sarah Palin and the gulp heard around the world! Today on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla, a look back at CPAC 2013. Governor Palin rocks the convention with a...Written on 03-10-13 by Kevin Scholla
Reverend Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Sheldon started TVC over thirty years ago and his group is...Written on 03-03-13 by Kevin Scholla
Jennifer Stefano of Americans for Prosperity stops by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Stefano discusses the 'etiquette of winning' that has been sorely missing...Written on 02-24-13 by Kevin Scholla
The Milwaukee County Sheriff was criticized by anti-Second Amendment activists after recording a message to citizens intended to give them options for keeping their families...Written on 02-16-13 by Kevin Scholla
Chuck Heath Sr. and Chuck Heath Jr. return to The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Sarah Palin's dad and brother are here to look back at their book tour adventures and...Written on 02-10-13 by Kevin Scholla
Bobby Schindler, Terri Schiavo's brother is the guest on The PalinRadio Update with Kevin Scholla! Schindler, the Executive Director of the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope...Written on 02-03-13 by Kevin Scholla
Vanessa Riddle's proud father, Chris Riddle visits The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla as SarahNET Radio goes international! The inspirational Vanessa gained worldwide...Written on 01-27-13 by Kevin Scholla
Scottie Hughes is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Hughes, the news director for the Tea Party News Network discusses the Obama administration's...Written on 01-20-13 by Kevin Scholla
Magdalena Segieda, director of FrackNation is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Along with Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney, Segieda has created a film that...Written on 01-15-13 by News Editor
Newt Gingrich turned the tables on Norah O'Donnell on Tuesday's CBS This Morning during a discussion about gun control. O'Donnell hounded Gingrich...Written on 01-13-13 by Kevin Scholla
Ben Shapiro stops by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! The author of the red hot new book Bullies: How The Left’s Culture Of Fear And Intimidation Silences America...Written on 01-09-13 by Kevin Scholla
I recently had the privilege of being a guest on Finlay And Smart Talk, hosted by Anita Finlay and John Smart. Anita, best known for her time on The Young And The...Written on 01-05-13 by Kevin Scholla
Karen Handel is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Handel tells Kevin how Susan G. Komen for the Cure was held hostage by Planned Parenthood. In her book...Written on 12-29-12 by Kevin Scholla
Pat McCaskey is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! McCaskey, co-owner of the Chicago Bears talks to Kevin about faith and sports and his involvement in...Written on 12-23-12 by Kevin Scholla
Dr. Karen Ruskin is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Ruskin, a psychotherapist, lends her expertise to assist parents in the aftermath of the Newtown,...Written on 12-15-12 by Kevin Scholla
Lila Rose, President of 'Live Action' is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! This amazing young woman has dedicated herself to building a culture of life and ending...Written on 12-10-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bo Whittenton of The Be Kind People Project is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! This remarkable group works to improve the education environment in our...Written on 12-02-12 by Kevin Scholla
Pattie Mallette is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Justin Bieber's mom talks to Kevin about her incredible book Nowhere But Up. Hear how this unbelievably...Written on 11-25-12 by Kevin Scholla
Kevin Sorbo is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! We'll need a Herculean effort to get through four more years of Obama, so we turn to Hercules himself. Sorbo...Written on 11-18-12 by Kevin Scholla
Angela Baraquio Grey is on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Baraquio Grey, Miss Hawaii 2000/Miss America 2001 is a champion of Character Education who served on...Written on 11-17-12 by Kevin Scholla
Recently Kevin Scholla, host of The Palin Update on SarahNET Radio appeared on Gennifer Flowers' radio program SEX, POWER & POLITICS on WGSO 990am in New Orleans to talk...Written on 11-11-12 by Kevin Scholla
Kelly Hancock, fresh off of winning a State Senate seat in Texas, is the guest on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla. Hancock talks to Kevin about the great success...Written on 11-04-12 by Kevin Scholla
Colonel Allen West visits The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla to talk about his race in Florida as well as the battle for The White House. Hear Congressman West's...Written on 10-29-12 by Kevin Scholla
Eileen Marchese Cohen of Imus in the Morning fame stops by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Recently Governor Palin was inexplicably called a racist by...Written on 10-22-12 by Kevin Scholla
Nick Popaditch visits The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Sergeant Popaditch gained fame as the 'Cigar Marine', fought bravely in the battle for Fallujah, and...Written on 10-21-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bristol Palin's run on Dancing With The Stars: All Stars ends with a bang! Bristol and Mark wow viewers with an incredible rock and roll routine and earn their highest scores...Written on 10-14-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bristol Palin charges on! After an exceptional routine on the latest installment of Dancing With The Stars: All Stars, Bristol stays alive in the competition and she is here...Written on 10-13-12 by Kevin Scholla
Juliette Turner, author of Our Constitution Rocks! is on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla! Just 14 years old, Juliette, daughter of Janine Turner is promoting The...Written on 10-07-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bristol Palin is back to talk with Kevin Scholla after advancing another round! Breaking It Down With Bristol- Episode 3: Bristol and Mark dance to Red Neck Woman and despite...Written on 10-06-12 by Kevin Scholla
Jennifer Goode is the guest on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla! Sarah Palin has stressed the importance of quality candidates on the local level and Goode is exactly...Written on 09-30-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bristol Palin joins Kevin Scholla! Breaking It Down With Bristol- Episode 2: Bristol gets through the first elimination on Dancing With The Stars: All Stars while Pamela...Written on 09-29-12 by Kevin Scholla
Chuck Heath Sr. is the guest on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla! In part two of a two part special presentation, Sarah Palin's father talks about Our Sarah: Made In...Written on 09-25-12 by Kevin Scholla
Sarah Palin's brother Chuck Heath Jr. is Kevin Scholla's guest on The Palin Update! In part one of a two part special presentation, SarahNET Radio takes a look at the new...Written on 09-22-12 by Kevin Scholla
Bristol Palin is here! Breaking It Down With Bristol- Episode 1: Bristol Palin is ready to embark on another dance adventure. Today, Bristol talks with Kevin...Written on 09-18-12 by Kevin Scholla
Lee Levin and Chris Zalles of The Voters stop by The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla! Liberals may control the media but The Voters are taking back the music. The...Written on 09-10-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: A SarahNET Radio special presentation. Bristol Palin is here! Bristol and Kevin discuss Life's A Tripp, Bristol's...Written on 09-04-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Christine O'Donnell is here! Fresh off a trip to the GOP Convention, O'Donnell talks to Kevin about Troublemaker Fest,...Written on 08-29-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Never shy to offer his opinion, Dr. Alan Keyes sits down with Kevin. The man who ran against Barack Obama for U.S....Written on 08-26-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: While the wind blows in Tampa from Isaac and from politicians, Sarah Palin is making a real difference! ...Written on 08-25-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: Dr. Ted Yoho is here! Just endorsed by Sarah Palin, this Christian conservative Republican is hoping to...Written on 08-18-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: It's getting so bad for President Obama that lifelong Democrats are jumping ship! Alabama's Artur Davis joins Kevin...Written on 08-14-12 by Kevin Scholla
CRF Radio's Steven Rosenblum interviews Kevin Scholla
//
Own a form first a secure bad one...Written on 08-12-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: A Sunshine State showdown! Florida's Karen Harrington is here to talk to Kevin about her run for the House and her...Written on 08-11-12 by Kevin Scholla
Extended Version! - The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: A SarahNET Radio special presentation. Todd Palin is here! The First Dude and Kevin take a look at Todd's new...Written on 08-05-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: A perfect ten! Sarah Palin has endorsed ten candidates in 2012 and all ten have appeared on SarahNET Radio! Today it's...Written on 07-30-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Radio Update with Kevin Scholla: You may not have known him until recently but now his infectious passion is sweeping America! Dan Bongino,...Written on 07-28-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Another Sarah Palin endorsement! Governor Palin throws her weight behind Martha Zoller, candidate for the House...Written on 07-24-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: A special Endorsement Edition of the program! Governor Sarah Palin backs Arizona Congressman Jeff Flake in his U.S. Senate...Written on 07-21-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: She's been compared to Sarah Palin and now she's endorsed by her! Sarah Steelman, conservative candidate for...Written on 07-17-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: An engaging show about a wonderful daughter, sister, and mom! Bristol Palin: Life's A Tripp is a new program on...Written on 07-13-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Congresswoman Sandy Adams, the first House candidate endorsed by Sarah Palin in 2012 is Kevin's special guest! ...Written on 07-07-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Run Forest Run! That's the call being heard in the Tarheel State, where conservative business leader Dan Forest is...Written on 06-28-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Governor Palin says the Obamacare ruling has fired up the troops! America’s eyes are opened! Today Congressman...Written on 06-26-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: A woman fighting for us in Connecticut! Conservative candidate Daria Novak is here to talk about her run for...Written on 06-17-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Hillary Clinton supporter Anita Finlay defends Sarah Palin! The author of Dirty Words On Clean Skin talks to...Written on 06-09-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Spreading the Love in Utah! Congressional candidate Mia Love is Kevin's guest! Love, the daughter of...Written on 06-01-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: He was born in Jordan to Christian parents and now this proud American is trying to upset the GOP establishment. New Jersey...Written on 05-27-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Hunting for Queen RINO! That's what Greg Sowards is doing in New Mexico. The Constitutional conservative talks to Kevin...Written on 05-26-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: After backing a series of challengers, Sarah Palin endorses incumbent U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah! Hatch joins Kevin to...Written on 05-20-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: With Palin Power at an all-time high, Ted Cruz looks to cash in on his recent endorsement from Governor Palin. Cruz is...Written on 05-13-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Fresh off a successful RINO hunt in Indiana, Sarah Palin flexes her endorsement muscles once again. After...Written on 05-06-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: We hear from Virginia's Jamie Radtke on her run for U.S. Senate! Radtke is on the American Grizzlies United...Written on 04-29-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: A Little woman that packs a huge Tea Party punch! New Jersey congressional candidate Anna Little is Kevin's...Written on 04-21-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Vietnam war hero David Christian is Kevin's special guest. Christian is running for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania and...Audio: This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Ron Devito, publisher of US 4 Palin is here
Written on 04-15-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Sick of these gas prices? Sarah Palin is...and the Mama Grizzly is doing something about it. We'll take a...Written on 04-08-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Game over!
Sarah Palin rocks 30 Rock and routs the 'Perky One' in the ratings. Plus Kevin talks with Thomas Schmitz...Written on 04-01-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: The Lieutenant Governor of Wisconsin Rebecca Kleefisch joins Kevin to talk about her recent endorsement from Sarah...Written on 03-25-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla- Minister and pro-life activist Dr. Alveda King is here. The niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Kevin discuss a...Written on 03-18-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: "October Baby", a powerful film that stresses the importance of life, hits theaters on March 23rd. Shari Rigby, one of...Written on 03-10-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Governor Palin fights back against the double standard and extreme hypocrisy from liberals when it comes to...Written on 03-04-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: The star of 'Growing Pains' and 'Fireproof' Kirk Cameron joins Kevin to discuss 'Monumental: In Search Of America's...Written on 03-03-12 by Kevin Scholla
A SarahNET Radio Special: Kevin Scholla, host of The Palin Update interviews Peter Schweizer at Grizzly Fest! Schweizer is the author of Throw Them All Out: How Politicians...Written on 02-26-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Adrienne Ross of Motivation Truth is here. Ross has been writing about and defending Sarah Palin for years. Recently,...Written on 02-18-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Sarah Palin rocks CPAC! We look back at the governor's remarkable speech. Our Presidential Series continues with Ron Paul....Written on 02-08-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: While conservatives are gathering in Washington, DC for CPAC 2012, Tea Party fave Kevin Jackson is our special guest! The...Written on 02-05-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Gearing up for CPAC! We're just days away now from the nation's largest annual gathering of conservatives. This year the...Written on 01-28-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Kate Obenshain! The vice president of Young America's Foundation is one of the top conservative voices today. ...Written on 01-21-12 by Kevin Scholla
Not only is the first openly gay candidate to officially run for president in a major party a Republican, he's also a Sarah Palin fan! This week on The Palin Update with...Written on 01-15-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Nicki Scroggin of Youth For Palin stops by to talk about her group's message. Youth For Palin is promoting the values of...Written on 01-07-12 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Entertainment legend Robin Leach is here with a unique perspective on what we need to do to jumpstart our country. ...Written on 12-30-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: SarahNET Radio's Presidential Series continues with Representative Michele Bachmann. The Minnesota Congresswoman tells Kevin...Written on 12-26-11 by Kevin Scholla
This Week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock joins Kevin to talk about his bid for the U.S. Senate. Months ago, Governor Palin...Written on 12-17-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Beloved TV personality Chuck Woolery joins Kevin to map out a plan for the future. The former host of Love Connection is now...Written on 12-09-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: SarahNET Radio's Presidential Series continues with Senator Rick Santorum. The Republican candidate for president makes his...Written on 12-04-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Social and political humorist Alfonzo Rachel talks with Kevin about the derailment of the Herman Cain train, Sarah Palin's...Written on 11-28-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Former Miss Georgia USA and Palin backer Brenda Sharman talks with Kevin. Learn about her remarkable journey to...Written on 11-21-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich sits down with Kevin. The Republican candidate for president lauds Governor Palin...Written on 11-13-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: SarahNET Radio is featured at Grizzly Fest and on The Janine Turner Show! Tune in to hear Kevin's appearance at the historic...Written on 11-08-11 by Kevin Scholla
Part one
Part two
Listen to The Janine Turner Show here
Written on 11-05-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Critically acclaimed author and pro-life champion Brian J. Gail talks with Kevin about his new book and the fight for life...Written on 10-30-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Actress, singer, and author Gennifer Flowers stops by to give Kevin her take on the media attacks leveled against...Written on 10-29-11 by Kevin Scholla
Written on 10-22-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: "The Hip Hop Palinista" Sonnie Johnson joins Kevin to talk about the role of race in politics, her experiences in supporting...Written on 10-15-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Award winning actress Janine Turner joins Kevin to talk about her admiration for Sarah Palin and discuss her popular new...Written on 10-09-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Governor Palin announces she will not seek the White House in 2012. Jackie Siciliano of Team Sarah joins Kevin to...Written on 10-02-11 by Kevin Scholla
Can Governor Palin still get in this race and win it? We examine that question and much more with conservative columnist and commentator Jedediah...Written on 09-24-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: A former Democrat talks to Kevin about why she is now a Palin supporter. Jasmine Velasco Hauser is a mom, a first generation...Written on 09-11-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on the Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: A warm reception for Governor Palin in New Hampshire. Plus we examine the possibility of a shift in the American Jewish...Written on 09-04-11 by Kevin Scholla
This week on the Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Governor Palin thrills supporters in Iowa at a Tea Party rally. Meantime, the Sarah Palin film The Undefeated hits...
Note: This site is not authorized by Governor Sarah Palin, any committee, or PAC.
